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mmm... blood letting

mmm... blood letting (which phlebotomy links to) is a very different thing. i'll leave it for now. Tristanb 10:03 27 May 2003 (UTC)

Do we really need complete instructions for venipuncture using vacutainers here? I think a more global overview would be more appropriate, especially as the precise procedure varies from place to place. --WS 23:49, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No - tubes, colours and tube order changes as testing equipment changes. Given wikipedia is not a commercial product training manual, and no doctor or patient relies upon wp to provide medical advice, such information is inappropriate in a general encyclopaedia. Also there is more than one system used worldwide, and this article should not be an advertising window for the one manufacturer.David Ruben ^Talk 02:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from phlebotomy (modern)

Phlebotomy (modern) is a clunky title. In the meantime, I've made phlebotomy into a disambiguation page. --Christopherlin 16:20, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely merge Phlebotomy (modern) into Venipuncture ASAP. I don't understand the move to Phlebotomy (modern) anyway. Really, phlebotomy and venipuncture are not the same thing. Venipuncture is part of phlebotomy but can be used for other things (IVF, feeds). THB 20:33, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Funny, my title is Certified Phlebotomy Technician.

And so is just about everybody else who went to school, and recieved a certification. Phlebotomists are *not* certified to start IVs, feeds, or give shots, although just like anything else in this level of the medical field, we can be cross-trained...and not every medical setting requires certification in *any* of these fields. Indeed, most MA's and LPN's I know have never drawn blood.Phlebotomists are more likely to perform lab tests, EKG, and drug screens than to start or push IVs. Just because you don't agree with the title doesn't give you the right to say it is wrong. So says me - JGeiger54, CPT. JGeiger54 21:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge is completed. Brian G. Crawford 22:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But also describes role, and US training/certification of the specific healthcare workers phlebotomists, yet there is a separate article for this health profession and I have therefore moved such job-specific information across. David Ruben ^Talk 02:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What new more advanced devices or alternative devices are there for drawing blood?... for
a. people experiencing pain from the phlebotomists' usual equipment?...
b. frail elderly?... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.29.41 (talk) 12:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

needle and vial technique

My blood was few times collected using different procedure not described here, using only needle and test-tube: Nurse first ties rubber band around biceps, takes just a needle (without syringe), drives it into the vein and simply catches free-dripping blood. Of course, blood has contact with air all the time, so it's done only with direct access to a lab. Prolly it's oldest and most lo-tech method of all described, but also looks most cool and scarry :) (vein is in constant overpressure, so there is no risk of collapse, too) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.99.1.240 (talk) 17:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Venipuncture is NOT primarily blood draw

It includes the entire subject of intravenous access. I fixed the 1st paragraph. The rest of the article needs IV added—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireftr (talk • contribs) 17:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Advertising

This whole article is reading like an advert for Vacutainer. I know it's acommon system but we need to be a bit more neutral I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arfgab (talk • contribs) 10:10, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

i must say, that is the worst blood collection job i have seen.... the pool of blood at the insertion point is just BAD form. someone should put a better picture up, maybe ill talk one of the patients from work into letting me take one... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.155.109 (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Equipment—Venipuncture with evacuated or vacuum tubes

In the second paragraph, is the so-called posterior end of the cannula more properly the distal end? Aboctok (talk) 05:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite accurate

Moved from front page as you will find clinicins using needle and syringe for all the idications below without a problem.Arfgab (talk) 14:06, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disadvantages of needle and syringe blood draws:

Syringes are not as safe because a tube transfer is necessary.
The specimen may be hemolyzed.
Not good for dehydrated patients.
Not good for patients with poor circulation.

Can not be used for:

Blood cultures
Erythrocyte sedimentation rate

Syringe Safety Tips:

After the blood sample is obtained leave the needle on the syringe and insert it through the rubber stopper into the vacuum tube.

Do not hold vacuum tube with your hand! Stand the tube in a test tube rack while inserting the syringe's needle.

There is no need to push down on the plunger, just allow the vacuum to draw the specimen from the syringe.

Never forcefully eject the collected blood from the syringe into the vacuum tube.

The pressure behind plunger that forces the blood through the needle combined with the force with which it is ejected out of the needle into the tube may result in hemolysis or worse, may cause the stopper to pop off creating a spray of blood droplets or the vacuum tube may explode causing spillage and danger of exposure to blood and bloodborne pathogens! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arfgab (talk • contribs) 14:05, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help scientific distinguish Phlebotomy.

Please help scientifical distinguish terms (1) Blood Sample Collection, (2)blood test, (3) Venipuncture (4) phlebotomy etc.

Does phlebotomy mean bloodletting??? That is often an unsientific practise which do Quack doctor exorcist etc. How same thing term can be used science based govt blood collectors??? enough confusing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:409A:A50F:0:0:378:70AC (talk) 02:14, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think science based hospital dispensary etcs should not use the term "phlebotomy'. Which they do not do.

Because phlebotomy mean blodletting!!! plain and simple. Just like vassectomy, lobotomy etc "removal" of thing!!!.

Please protest against quack-doctors exorcists etc who do bad pracices such as bloodletting etc. These are all false and harmfull. Donnt go to any quack doctor and dont go to any amature private experimentalist doctor and dont go to any exorcist and dont go to any commercial advertising doctor. Dont believe magic cure, these are all cheating.

Please do only science based modern treatment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.15.186.91 (talk) 02:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Govt should not use obsolid terminology word jugglery. Please DONT CONFUSE the patient party. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:409A:A50F:0:0:378:70AC (talk) 02:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted a duplicate copy generated during an edit conflict. May be someone else was typing at the same time??? What was they typing??

Use disposable syringe only.

In modern india it is very illegal to reuse a syringe. After taking blood sample/giving injection, both the syringe and needle to be destroyed in an incinerator. Same syringe must NOT be used for more than 1 person. Throwing a syringe in random place is also strictly inhibited. If someone do not follow this regulation strictly, that is illegal, offensive, unethical and harmful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4060:200E:8708:0:0:1660:28A5 (talk) 03:13, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Possible edits

I see only the median cubital vein is listed for a possible venipuncture site, would add cephalic, antebrachial, basilic ^[1]

Looking to possibly add a section about transillumination devices/ultrasound assisted phlebotomy ^[2]

I'm new to this editing stuff, sorry if I did anything incorrectly! --Allthecats88 (talk) 23:44, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Bains, Kanwal Naveen S. “Anatomy, Shoulder and Upper Limb, Elbow Cubital Fossa.” StatPearls [Internet]., U.S. National Library of Medicine, 8 Feb. 2019, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459250
^ Mukai, Kanae, et al. “Safety of Venipuncture Sites at the Cubital Fossa as Assessed by Ultrasonography.” Journal of Patient Safety, U.S. National Library of Medicine, 15 Nov. 2017, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29140886

No doctors?

I was a bit alarmed to see that the collective authors didn't mention doctors in the list of healthcare professionals who carry out venipuncture. I appreciate that many doctors have the luxury of not having to take blood, but some don't! I am a doctor in the UK and I carry out venipuncture every day of my working life.RichYPE (talk) 16:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Bains, Kanwal Naveen S. “Anatomy, Shoulder and Upper Limb, Elbow Cubital Fossa.” StatPearls [Internet]., U.S. National Library of Medicine, 8 Feb. 2019, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459250

[2] Mukai, Kanae, et al. “Safety of Venipuncture Sites at the Cubital Fossa as Assessed by Ultrasonography.” Journal of Patient Safety, U.S. National Library of Medicine, 15 Nov. 2017, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29140886

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