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Media attention

I'd watch out if I got stung by one of these because it might attract media attention on a slow newsday.

My apologies for speedy-deleting this when it was previously created - it looked to be a vandalism/joke. I didn't realize it was a real arachnid. - DavidWBrooks 14:45, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Etymology of "Deathstalker"

Does anyone know anything about the etymology of "Deathstalker"? Pretty odd for an animal that does not live in any English speaking country to have such a name.

It is most likely a name that was given to it by the pet trade as a selling tactic. Afterall, "Five-keeled Gold Scorpion" just isn't as interesting as "Deathstalker". Maybe someone from within its range might have something more to add, I'm not sure what it is called in Arabic or Hebrew. -Dawson 07:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When did this name appear? I assume it's of recent coinage? Drutt (talk) 02:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The common name 'deathstalker' was first used for a scorpion in the monthly pricelist of Glades Herp, Inc., a wildlife dealer - importer - exporter based in Fort Myers, Florida that specialized in reptiles, amphibians and invertebrates. I (co-owner Bill Love at the time) constructed a paper availability pricelist every month that was postal mailed to up to 5000 potential customers each month. For accuracy, I always listed a common and scientific name for every taxa we offered. The species Leiurus quinquestriatus was one of several kinds of scorpions we imported for the first time from the Mid East, and it was the one our source warned us was most dangerous. I had to create a common name for it so it fit in with all our other invertebrate listings, and came up with 'deathstalker' as a catchy name after recently watching a TV show called 'The Nightstalker'. The very first place the name appears in print is on our green Glades Herp, Inc. pricelists from the very early 1990s. 75.171.75.148 (talk) 02:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC) Bill Love[reply]

Ambiguity

There were also some movies by this name - Deathstalker and Deathstalker 2; I don't recall if a third was made. This should be mentioned somewhere, as I noticed that the link on actress Barbi Benton's page has her starring in a scorpion... Wyvern 01:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Location

This article doesn't tell me where they are geographically, like it says it does. It tells me what kind of habitat they live in, said habitats are found thousands of miles apart with oceans in between. Ours18 05:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A vandal removed the information several revisions ago, I put it back in. -Dawson 17:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image

A photograph would be nice. Drutt 07:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Color

The article claims that the scorpion is yellow, but the one in the picture is green. Is this an unusual exemplar, or bad color settings on the camera used to take the photo, or what? --Trovatore (talk) 02:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I found a pdf with some information about this species. I don't think it would be usable as a source, but the bibliography probably could be:

Ben-Abraham, R., G. Eschel, E. Winkler, A. A. Weinbroum, Z. Barzilay & G. Paret. 2000. Triage for Leiurus quinquestriatus scorpion envenomation in children–is routine ICU hospitalization necessary? Human and Experimental Toxicology 19: 663–666.
Cloudsley-Thompson, J. L. 1961. Observations on the biology of the scorpion, Leiurus quinquestriatus (H. & E.), in the Sudan. Entomologist’s Monthly Magazine 97: 153– 155.
Cloudsley-Thompson, J. L. 1965. The scorpion. Science Journal 1: 35–41.
Gueron, M., J. Stern & W. Cohen. 1967. Severe myocardial damage and heart failure in scorpion sting. American Journal of Cardiology 19: 719–725.
Gueron, M. & R. Yaron. 1970. Cardiovascular manifestations of severe scorpion sting: Clinicopathologic correlations. Chest 57: 156–162.
Gueron, M. & I. Ovsyshcher. 1987. What is the treatment for cardiovascular manifestations of scorpion envenomation? Toxicon 25: 121–124.
Gueron, M., R. Ilia & S. Sofer. 1992. The cardiovascular system after scorpion envenomation. A review. Journal of Toxicology; Clinical Toxicology 30: 245–258.
Hadley, N. F. 1974. Adaptional biology of desert scorpions. Journal of Arachnology 2: 11–23.
Ismail, M. 1995. The scorpion envenoming syndrome. Toxicon 33: 825–858.
Ismail, M., A. J. Fatani & T. T. Dabees. 1993. Experimental treatment protocols for scorpion envenomation: A review of common therapies and an effect of kallikrein-kinin inhibitors.
Toxicon 30: 1257–1279.
Kopeyan, C., G. Martinez & H. Rochat. 1985. Primary structure of toxin IV of Leiurus quinquestriatus quinquestriatus: Characterization of a new group of scorpion toxins. FEBS Letters 181: 211–217.
Kopeyan, C., P. Mansuelle, M. F. Martin-Eauclaire, H. Rochat & F. Miranda. 1993. Characterization of toxin III of the scorpion Leiurus quinquestriatus quinquestriatus: A new type of alpha-toxin highly toxic to both mammals and insects. Natural toxins 1: 308–312.
Kovarik, F. 2007. Leiurus nasheri sp. nov. from Yemen (Scorpiones, Buthidae). Acta Societas Zoologicae Bohemicae 71: 137–141.
Levy, G. & P. Amitai. 1980. Fauna Palaestina. Arachnida I. Scorpiones. Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities, Jerusalem. Pp. 130.
Lourenco, W. R., D. Modry & Z. Amr. 2002. Description of a new species of Leiurus
Ehrenberg, 1828 (Scorpiones, Buthidae) from the south of Jordan. Revue Suisse de Zoologie 109(3): 635–642.
Lourenco, W. R., J.-X. Qi & J. L. Cloudsley-Thompson. 2006. The African species of the genus Leiurus Ehrenberg, 1828 (Scorpiones: Buthidae) with the description of a new species.
Boletin Sociedad Entomológica Aragonesa 39: 97–101.
Shalita, E. A. & R. D. Wells. 2007. Treatment of yellow scorpion (Leiurus quinquestriatus) sting: A case report. Journal of the American Pharmacists Association 47: 616–619.
Sofer, S. & M. Gueron. 1988. Respiratory failure in children following envenomation by the scorpion, Leiurus quinquestriatus: hemodynamics and neurological aspects. Toxicon 26: 931– 939.
Warburg, M. R. 1997. Biogeographic and demographic changes in the distribution and abundance of scorpions inhabiting the Mediterranean region in northern Israel.
Biodiversity and Conservation 6: 1377–1389.

Serotonin

Should it be added that they have serotonin in their venom?

Serotonin is commonplace in a lot of different venoms. Its purpose I believe is generally to inflict pain on a grand scale, as exogenous (originates from outside the host organism) serotonin does not cross the blood brain barrier and hence having no direct CNS effect and thus does not part take in any neurotoxic action. I think to include serotonin as a venom component in this article would be of negative consequence. Most people think of serotonin as the endogenous neurotransmitter that occurs naturally in the brain, and thus incorrectly believe it has a part to play in this venom's neurotoxicity. Therefore one would have to explain about exogenous serotonin not passing the blood-brain barrier which could easily lead a lot of readers off-topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.57.95 (talk) 19:16, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup of the section regarding deathstalkers in captivity

I've done some major revision of the sections regarding keeping of L.quinquestriatus in captivity in an attempt to not have it look like a pet-care guide (as it is, it turns out there's a guide on Wikipets, so a lot of the "care and feeding" section got redacted); most of the section ended up being split off into a discussion on the controversies (including in the "hot herp" and "hot bug" communities) on L.quinquestriatus and whether it should be even kept in captivity outside of a zoological/research setting. (I've also added some more info regarding antivenom for L.quinquestriatus; turns out there's a third antivenom in production the US Army is using in its Gulf War operations that has been mentioned in a Medline article.)

I've also included cites galore as that section badly needed it; one of my minor concerns with the citing I've done is that much of it is from scorpion-pet and "hot herp" forums in the sections regarding the controversy over whether L.quinquestriatus is safe to keep even by experienced "hot bug" owners (there's surprisingly little dissent on these forums over whether inexperienced scorpion owners should keep them--they shouldn't!--and there's a 50/50 split on whether they should be kept at all). I've TRIED to keep it neutral as much as possible.

If there's any problems or further corrections to be made, feel free to correct away or to bounce me suggestions. Dogemperor (talk) 03:35, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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How annoying that the page is protected. But I saw the history, so I understand, but that is really such a waste of time. This sentence needs a citation: There has also been some evidence to show that other components of the venom may aid in the regulation of insulin and could be used to treat diabetes.[citation needed] So I found this as a source: https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Leiurus_quinquestriatus/. That's it for now. I hope I can come back soon and work on this page without needing to request an edit. Thanks. Benjamin Mitchell (talk) 12:38, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Two related changes. In the final sentence of the "Hazards" subsection, please remove the internal link from Florida Antivenin Bank to Miami-Dade Fire Rescue Dept. While the Bank is managed by Miami-Dade, no mention on the Wikipedia page is made of the Bank, so a link seems inappropriate. Alternatively, add a clause "..., managed by the Miami-Dade Fire Rescue Department.

Also, the citation for this (cite 16) is dead. An updated url is here:<https://www.miamidade.gov/fire/library/antivenom-species-covered.pdf>. I should note that this document only notes that they carry Scoprifav for Leiurus quinquestriatus, not that they have an IND application for such. Thanks! 68.48.107.79 (talk) 16:22, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 00:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]