Talk:Tupolev Tu-160

National origin

Since this originated in the Soviet Union, should we strike Russia from it? No question that Russia is the successor the the USSR, but it does't seem to be the origin.Garuda28 (talk) 19:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Don't take origin so literally. In this sense, it means the nations it comes from or are responsible for it, not the first-ever nation. - BilCat (talk) 19:38, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Gotcha, wasn't sure if there was a precedence for this on other aircraft articles, since the Soviet Union/Russia is our only case of this happening in recent history. Thanks!Garuda28 (talk) 19:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, that's the original intent of the parameter anyway, and how I continue to interpret it. Russia is doing major upgrades of their T-160s, and might resume production if needed, so it's clearly their aircraft too. And there's certainly a strong argument that Russia is the successor to the Soviet Union, as the former made up the bulk of the latter's land area and population. - BilCat (talk) 21:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Antonov was an Ukrainian, Tupolev Russian. The continunity exists. 62.78.205.143 (talk) 16:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Tu-170?

It links here from a list of Tu planes, but there's no mention of it. I demand this be done. GMRE (talk) 20:33, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Size/ Role / Comparison

I quote: "While similar in appearance to the American B-1 Lancer, the Tu-160 is a different class of combat aircraft; its primary role being a standoff missile platform (strategic missile carrier).[32] The Tu-160 is also larger and faster than the B-1B and has a slightly greater combat range, though the B-1B has a larger combined payload with external payload." When comparing Size -it is closer to the US North American Aviation XB-70 Valkyrie. Althought the XB-70 is some decades earlier and only 2 test aircraft were built. Others thoughts on changing the comparision to the XB-70? Wfoj3 (talk) 13:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Yep. Also the "in response to" B-1 is completely false and comes from military fan fiction literature.

It could be compared to (but was not made in-response-to) the _original_ RFP for the B1 which called for a strategic bomber. Once the B-1"A" project got canned, the Tu-160 was left in a class of its own. No other mid-supersonic trans-continental "bomber" was ever put into service.

This is similar in how the Mig-31 (and Mig-25) have no analogues. Or how the F-117 or the F-14 had no analogues either. Each of these came to be solving a specific need for a specific country. A need that just did not exist for anyone else. Or the Draken for the Swedes, etc. 83.240.62.87 (talk) 21:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Register and port

There is a common knowledge, that the Russian federation had 16 Tupolev Tu-160's, Tu-160M1's and Tu-160M2's. How ever since the Ukrainians strome to the Engels AFB, 30 Tupolevs can be seen in the Google Earth satellite photograph in Vernnyi AFB in the Murmans oblast. It would be interesting to know, what are the remaising 13 and what types they represent. 2001:14BA:6408:AB00:CD45:302A:4BDB:A8F5 (talk) 15:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

register	port number	name	serial	modernisation
RF-94100	10	Nikolai Kuznetsov Николай Кузнецов 09.08.2008	6-01	10.08.2022 Ukrainian from Priluk to Engels
RF-94101	03	Pavel Taran Павел Таран	7-03	Tu-160M? 2017-2019
RF-94102	02	Vasilij Reshetnikov Василий Решетников	7-02	1992
RF-94103	14 22	Igor Sikorsky Игорь Сикорский 2012		11.2021
RF-94104	05	Alexander Gonovalov Александр Голованов 1999Ilya Murometsh 1995	7-05
RF-94105	06	Ilya Murometsh Илья Муромец 1995	8-01
RF-94106	07	Alexander Molotchy Александр Молодчий 2000	8-02
RF-94107	16	Alexey Plohov Алексей Плохов 2001		subject to become modernised
RF-94108	15	Vladimir Sudets Владимир Судец 2004	5-05
RF-94109	12	Aleksandr Novikov Александр Новиков 2000	6-03 01.2012
RF-94110	17	Valery Chkalov Валерий Чкалов 2004	5-04 29.06.1990	Ukrainian from Priluk to Engels
RF-94111	18	Andrei Tupolev Андрей Туполев	6-05 1991
RF-94112	04	Ivan Jarygin Иван Ярыгин 1997	7-04	Tu-160M? 2017-2019
RF-94113	19 87	Valentin Bliznjuk Валентин Близнюк 2006	2-02	Tu-160M1 2006
RF-94114	11	Vasilij Senko Василий Сенько 2002	6-02 30.12.1990	Tu-160M? 2026 Ukrainian from Priluk to Engels
RF-94115	08	Vitalij Kopylov Виталий Копылов 2008	8-03
RF-94_N/A	09	Boris Bevemei Борис Веремей 2005	4-01	Tu-160M 2022
RF-94_N/A		Pyotor Deinekin Пётр Дейнекин	8-04	Tu-160M 16.11.2017