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Suggestions for Improvement

Hello!

My name is Jenna Vanella and I am a media and communications student at Salem State University. I am adding to the Talk Page because I want to discuss this article and make a few suggestions on things that can be improved. Overall, the article does a very good job of describing tokenism and giving clear examples.

Citations:

Citation 4 references a book, but the link only takes you to a website in which you can purchase the book. Is there a link that can take you to the passage from the book, such as citation 5?
Citation 7 and 26 link to another Wikipedia Article. Is there another link to a website that has better credibility?
Citation 10 does not have a link, and it is a little confusing whether or not it’s a book or an article or something of the sort. I think I found the source in question under https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24722926/. Even though it’s not the article itself, I feel as though the Abstract at the beginning could prove that the source is credible and talking about Tokenism.
Citation 22 leads to a website with a paragraph that is patently copied and pasted into the last paragraph of the article. I was wondering how credible this source is considering they attributed Moana to be a Pixar film when it is from Disney Animation Studios. Maybe there is a way to reword the last paragraph of the article.
Citations 31, 32, and 33 are all credible sources, but they’re all from articles on The Guardian. Is there another source from different origins that could help back up the information?
Citation 34 leads to a 404 page not found, but Token from South Park is a good example of Tokenism. Using a simple source like https://southpark.cc.com/wiki/Token_Black or linking to an episode that shows Token being used facetiously as a token character would really help support this article. Citation 35 helps with this!

Edits:

Under “in fiction” Eric July is noted to be a “social and media commentator”, which doesn’t exactly make sense. I think this should be changed to “social media commentator”.
Under “in film”, as I had mentioned above in Citation 22, the movie Moana is attributed to be a Pixar movie, and this is untrue. Moana is a Disney Animation Studios movie. If you need a credible source to back this up, the Walt Disney Company has many websites that claim the movie, such as https://d23.com/a-to-z/moana-film/. Or, an easy way to check this fact is that on the image associated with the movie, there is no mention of Pixar, as opposed to Finding Nemo that is attributed to both film companies.

Suggestions:

In “See Also”, the Smurfette Principle is mentioned, but I believe this could be an interesting subject to add to the article, especially since “in film” could use more representations of token women characters.
In “See Also”, Michael the Black Man is mentioned, and I believe that referencing him in the “in politics” section would help to broaden that section.
There are some people mentioned in the article that are just named, not attributed. I think it would help to make the article stronger by giving a brief statement about who they are and why they’re to be trusted. For example, Adilifu Nama is mentioned (and in a citation, it is asked who?), but he is only named. Nama is a Professor of African American Studies. That makes him really credible!

Thank you! Jvanella23 (talk) 15:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jvanella23: I think your edits are fantastic, the only suggestions I have would be to seek out alternative sources for the suggested ones to fix and share those for review in the citation section and the suggestions section. Other than those, your suggestions are great!Emilylavacchia (talk) 00:25, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Potential addition to the "in film" section

The Harry Potter series, written by author J.K. Rowling, has displayed tokenism through race and sexuality. Potter’s first love interest, Cho Chang, was named after two Asian surnames. [1] Reporter Kimberly Yam tweeted that the one use of Asian representation in the series had a name equivalent to “ching chong”. [2] Rowling also revealed Albus Dumbledore to be homosexual weeks after the final book was released, though his sexuality is not mentioned in the books or films. [3] Fans displayed dismay against this representation, as Dumbledore would be the only gay character in the series, and his supposed love interest was Gellert Grindelwald, an immoral teen facist. [4]

[1]“Cho Chang.” Harry Potter Wiki, https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Cho_Chang.
[2] Yam, Kimberly [@KimmyThePooh] Twitter, 7 June 2020, https://twitter.com/kimmythepooh/status/1269428961391652864?lang=en
[3] Elliott, Gina. “Rowling Reveals Harry Potter Secrets.” Time, Time Inc., 20 Oct. 2007, http://content.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1674073,00.html.

http://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,1675622,00.html

[4] Carmody, Broede. “J.K. Rowling Says Dumbledore and Grindelwald Had 'Passionate' Sexual Relationship.” The Sydney Morning Herald, The Sydney Morning Herald, 18 Mar. 2019, https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/jk-rowling-says-dumbledore-and-grindelwald-had-passionate-sexual-relationship-20190318-p5159p.html.

Jvanella23 (talk) 16:28, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting part of the lead

"The effort of including a token individual in work or school is usually intended to create the impression of social inclusiveness and diversity (racial, religious, sexual, etc.) in order to deflect accusations of discrimination." I would delete "in order to deflect accusations of discrimination" because token individuals may also be included to boost the image of diversity without deflecting accusations of discrimination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhoulez (talk • contribs) 12:17, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"black characters in a science-fiction film"

Harry Belafonte in 1959. The World, the Flesh and the Devil (1959 film). AMCKen (talk) 00:01, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]